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Hi all:
I'm retracting my post of a laughing gull at Crescent Beach yesterday. I made a mistake in the fog and being in a hurry for the bird being larger than it was. The photos tell the true identify as a Bonaparte gull.
Sincerely,
James R. Hirtle
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Growing up in the country in England with hordes of crows, it was said that they would sometimes kill one of their own for no obvious reason but I never found a dead fledgling. We had a big yard with chickens and as a young boy I would often adopt birds that for various reasons had fallen from the nest or had some minor problems. They included Crows, Magpies and Jackdaws and a Mallard Drake which one of our broody hens hatched from an egg I found on the ground near a swamp and added it to her clutch. One problem was that the birds became too tame. The Mallard would follow me everywhere if it got a chance and one of the Magpies would often follow me to our one room schoolhouse and on more than one occasion would get in the door and perch inside until the end of lessons. We lived 50 ft from the sand dunes and once the land mines were cleared in 1945 the dunes and the beach were a wonderful place to grow up.Peter StowHubbards
In a message dated 2020-07-09 1:20:46 PM Atlantic Standard Time, donmacneill(a)bellaliant.net writes:
Nobody here has mentioned Corvid 19 as a probable cause so I guess I'll do it.
Don
Don MacNeill donmacneill(a)bellaliant.netOn 7/9/2020 11:05 AM, Sean Dzafovic wrote:
I've heard that crows gather around and have "funerals" because they are trying to determine what happened to their fellow corvid and if it's a danger to others.
Sean Dzafovic
On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 9:09 AM Anne Woolaver <awoolave(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
Don,
Of the two possibilities presented, mourning or lurking, logic would suggest that the former is more likely.
If you're planning to ambush someone, it works better if you don't round up 50 of your pals and then all advertise your presence.
I'd like to think crows are smart enough to know that!
(And of course, their behavior could mean something else entirely.)
AW
From: Don MacNeill <donmacneill(a)bellaliant.net>
Sent: July 8, 2020 9:03 AM
To: NaturenNS <naturens(a)chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: [Naturens] Re: Crow fledgling DEAD, IWK driveway
It is so easy to attribute human behaviour to these events. You wonder if they are mourning the dead bird or waiting for the killer so they can dive-bomb him.
Don
Don MacNeill donmacneill(a)bellaliant.netOn 7/8/2020 8:55 AM, Anne Woolaver wrote:
This morning before 8:30, there was a fledgling crow dead in the middle of the University Avenue driveway (between the play garden and the parkade), with mostly adult plumage but still some downy feathers. Dozens of "mourners", all nicely physically-distanced, lined the rooftops of both the IWK Children's site and the parkade, with others flying in and wheeling overhead, all vocalizing loudly. I picked up a discarded Timmies cup and managed to slide the corpse off to the side, next to the curb. No one dive-bombed me, so perhaps they appreciated the gesture.
So much parental effort, for naught except the experience.
A. Woolaver
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JULY 6/20 — This is fledging time for young bald eagles. Today I again checked on a few local nests.
(a) northwest of Noggins Corner Farm Market — 2 big fledglings in nest.
(b) Wolfville Anglican Church — no sign of the fledgling there, so probably it has flown?
(c) North Grand Pre, West Long Island, Leungs’ nest — only one of the two fledglings was in the nest, so probably one has fledged?
(d) West Long Island, house no. ??? — the single fledgling is still on the nest, but flapping often, ready to fledge?, and an adult was nearby in the nest-tree.
(e) Grand Pre, west of G. P. Hist. Park, east of Miner Lane — single fledgling perched adjacent to nest, and an adult was perched close by on another branch.
Cheers from Jim in Wolfville.
David Webster sent this to me but I'm sure he intended it for the list.
Please note that in the new system, if you hit "reply" it will only go to
the sender. You have to hit "Reply All" to send to the whole list.
From: David Webster
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2020 11:19
To: John Kearney <j.f.kearney(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Naturens] Re: Crow fledgling DEAD, IWK driveway
Dear All,
Of course animals have emotions. Geese mate for life. Many humans
specialize in one night stands. Which behavior implies greater sensitivity ?
When my brothers and father were away in the army our dog would go nuts
when he saw someone in uniform walking up the road. Run around, snort, grin,
try to get out etc.
YT, Dave W.
On 7/9/2020 11:07 AM, John Kearney wrote:
Hi All,
It is well known in the scientific world that crows have funerals as
described by Anne. I have witnessed them on two occasions. I found them to
be awe-inspiring. However, crow scientists describe this behaviour mainly as
an attempt to learn more about the dangers in their world, even though they
have no hard evidence for this explanation. They seem to want to minimize
any notion of emotions being involved.
Here is a brief podcast on the subject:
https://www.birdnote.org//show/crow-funeral-tony-angell
<https://www.birdnote.org/show/crow-funeral-tony-angell> .
John
From: Anne Woolaver
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2020 09:09
To: NaturenNS <mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> <naturens(a)chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: [Naturens] Re: Crow fledgling DEAD, IWK driveway
Don,
Of the two possibilities presented, mourning or lurking, logic would suggest
that the former is more likely.
If you're planning to ambush someone, it works better if you don't round up
50 of your pals and then all advertise your presence.
I'd like to think crows are smart enough to know that!
(And of course, their behavior could mean something else entirely.)
AW
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From: Don MacNeill <donmacneill(a)bellaliant.net
<mailto:donmacneill@bellaliant.net> >
Sent: July 8, 2020 9:03 AM
To: NaturenNS <naturens(a)chebucto.ns.ca <mailto:naturens@chebucto.ns.ca> >
Subject: [Naturens] Re: Crow fledgling DEAD, IWK driveway
It is so easy to attribute human behaviour to these events. You wonder if
they are mourning the dead bird or waiting for the killer so they can
dive-bomb him.
Don
Don MacNeill donmacneill(a)bellaliant.net <mailto:donmacneill@bellaliant.net>
On 7/8/2020 8:55 AM, Anne Woolaver wrote:
This morning before 8:30, there was a fledgling crow dead in the middle of
the University Avenue driveway (between the play garden and the parkade),
with mostly adult plumage but still some downy feathers. Dozens of
"mourners", all nicely physically-distanced, lined the rooftops of both the
IWK Children's site and the parkade, with others flying in and wheeling
overhead, all vocalizing loudly. I picked up a discarded Timmies cup and
managed to slide the corpse off to the side, next to the curb. No one
dive-bombed me, so perhaps they appreciated the gesture.
So much parental effort, for naught except the experience.
A. Woolaver
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Took this photo on July 2 gravel roadside in Lakeview (near E Dalhousie, Kings Co). I thought Bouncing Bet/Soapwort (Saponaria officinalis) for the pink spiky bloom that is an ~3’ tall plant but my mother says that is not the Bouncing Bet she remembers so not sure. This could be where an old homesite existed. Both pink and white (Spreading Dogbane?) blooms have since disappeared. I have more pics if needed. Thanks again.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/150605880@N07/50092596683/in/dateposted/
Nancy D
Growing up in the country in England with hordes of crows, they would sometimes kill one of their own for no obvious reason but I never found a dead fledgling. We had a big yard with chickens and as a young boy I would often adopt birds that for various reasons had fallen from the nest or had some minor problems. They included Crows, Magpies and Jackdaws and a Mallard Drake which one of our broody hens hatched from an egg I found on the ground near a swamp and added it to her clutch. One problem was that the birds became too tame. The Mallard would follow me everywhere if it got a chance and one of the Magpies would often follow me to our one room schoolhouse and on more than one occasion would get in the door and perch inside until the end of lessons. We lived 50 ft from the sand dunes and once the land mines were cleared in 1945 the dunes and the beach were a wonderful place to grow up.Peter StowHubbardsÂ
Thank you all. I keyed it out under shrub. I notice Spreading Dogbane (in Newcomb’s) lists as having pink flowers but the structure is right. Like Blueberry plants white often grades to pink and vice versa. Will be looking for the long pods.
NancyD
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> On Jul 8, 2020, at 3:00 PM, David Webster <dwebster(a)glinx.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Nancy and all
>
> Lonicer canadensis is an early flowering belt to chest high woody shrub with paired pendant flowers. Your photos are I think Apocynum androsaemifolium; milky sap, bunched flowers; not woody, low.
>
> YT DW
>
>> On 7/8/2020 2:22 PM, NancyDowd wrote:
>> This sprawling shrub was 2-3’ high along a gravel road bordered by mixed woods in E Dalhousie, Kings Co. Flowers are less than 1/2†long and leaves +/-2â€. The best ID I am coming up with is Fly Honeysuckle (Lonicera canadensis) using Ray Fieldings’s Shrubs of Nova Scotia. Correct?
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/150605880@N07/50091258587/in/dateposted/
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/150605880@N07/50090447418/in/dateposted/
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/150605880@N07/50090444683/in/dateposted/
>>
>> Thanks, Nancy D
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