8 Nov
2021
8 Nov
'21
12:40 p.m.
Yesterday, the Boss and I took Highway 203 from Carleton in Yarmouth County
around to Shelburne. It forms part of the southern boundary of the Tobeatic
Wilderness Area. Passable with caution. Some of the potholes can damage
tires and low-slung cars can bottom out on some of the ridges!
We stopped at Bear Brook bridge, Clyde River Bridge, and the Indian Fields
"airstrip." Glimpsed one dragonfly on the Clyde Bridge, and on the
airstrip, the little red guys (Sympetrum?) were abundant. Additional
bonuses at Indian Fields were a pileated woodpecker and a bald eagle, who
seemed to like being near the airstrip.
This is November, isn't it?
8 Nov
8 Nov
1:23 p.m.
New subject: Red shrub in woods
Hi, all-
The mixed forest near our home (specifically, the Lake William Trail) is
full of a woody shrub with brilliant red leaves at this time. It's
typically about waist-high, and grows quite densely beside the trail.
Could it be laurel? I'll have to take a leaf home with me next time to
aid in looking it up. The Flora of Nova Scotia doesn't mention the fall
colour of laurel.
Peter Payzant
1:40 p.m.
New subject: Red shrub in woods
On 08-Nov.-21 12:23 p.m., Peter Payzant wrote:
The mixed forest near our home (specifically, the Lake
William Trail) is
full of a woody shrub with brilliant red leaves at this time. It's
typically about waist-high, and grows quite densely beside the trail.
Could it be laurel? I'll have to take a leaf home with me next time to
aid in looking it up. The Flora of Nova Scotia doesn't mention the fall
colour of laurel.
* Burning-bush - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euonymus_alatus ?
Widely whooped as an invasive, though in eastern Ontario it often
doesn't seem to get away from cultivation.
fred.
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on the Smiths Falls Limestone Plain 44.87156° N 75.70095° W
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2:29 p.m.
New subject: Red shrub in woods
Thanks - I had no idea that Burning Bush escapes into the woods. I'll
get a sample and check it against the description. There's certainly a
lot of it at that particular site.
--- Peter Payzant
On 2021-11-08 1:40 PM, Frederick W. Schueler wrote:
On 08-Nov.-21 12:23 p.m., Peter Payzant wrote:
The mixed forest near our home (specifically, the
Lake William Trail)
is full of a woody shrub with brilliant red leaves at this time. It's
typically about waist-high, and grows quite densely beside the trail.
Could it be laurel? I'll have to take a leaf home with me next time
to aid in looking it up. The Flora of Nova Scotia doesn't mention the
fall colour of laurel.
* Burning-bush - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euonymus_alatus ?
Widely whooped as an invasive, though in eastern Ontario it often
doesn't seem to get away from cultivation.
fred.
------------------------------------------------------------
Frederick W. Schueler & Aleta Karstad
Fragile Inheritance Natural History
Mudpuppy Night in Oxford Mills - https://www.facebook.com/MudpuppyNight/
NatureMatch concentration game - https://naturematch.ca/
'Daily' Paintings - http://karstaddailypaintings.blogspot.com/
6 St-Lawrence Street Bishops Mills, RR#2 Oxford Station, Ontario K0G 1T0
on the Smiths Falls Limestone Plain 44.87156° N 75.70095° W
(613)258-3107 <bckcdb at istar.ca> http://pinicola.ca/
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4:34 p.m.
New subject: Red shrub in woods
'Sounds like Huckleberry
David G PatriquinProfessor of Biology (retired)Dalhousie University
Web Stuff at versicolor.caForest Blog at nsforestnotes.caGoogle Scholar
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On Monday, November 8, 2021, 1:47:52 PM AST, Frederick W. Schueler
<bckcdb(a)istar.ca> wrote:
On 08-Nov.-21 12:23 p.m., Peter Payzant wrote:
The mixed forest near our home (specifically, the Lake
William Trail) is
full of a woody shrub with brilliant red leaves at this time. It's
typically about waist-high, and grows quite densely beside the trail.
Could it be laurel? I'll have to take a leaf home with me next time to
aid in looking it up. The Flora of Nova Scotia doesn't mention the fall
colour of laurel.
* Burning-bush - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euonymus_alatus ?
Widely whooped as an invasive, though in eastern Ontario it often
doesn't seem to get away from cultivation.
fred.
------------------------------------------------------------
Frederick W. Schueler & Aleta Karstad
Fragile Inheritance Natural History
Mudpuppy Night in Oxford Mills - https://www.facebook.com/MudpuppyNight/
NatureMatch concentration game - https://naturematch.ca/
'Daily' Paintings - http://karstaddailypaintings.blogspot.com/
6 St-Lawrence Street Bishops Mills, RR#2 Oxford Station, Ontario K0G 1T0
on the Smiths Falls Limestone Plain 44.87156° N 75.70095° W
(613)258-3107 <bckcdb at istar.ca> http://pinicola.ca/
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4:45 p.m.
New subject: Red shrub in woods
We brought a little branch back to the house for comparison with photos
etc. I can't swear that there are any "wings" on the bark - if so, they
are very small. There is no fruit on this sample. The leaves have smooth
margins, while photos on the web seem to show that Burning Bush leaves
are dentate. More investigation required, it seems.
--- Peter
On 2021-11-08 4:34 PM, David Patriquin wrote:
'Sounds like Huckleberry
David G Patriquin
Professor of Biology (retired)
Dalhousie University
Web Stuff at versicolor.ca <http://versicolor.ca>
Forest Blog at nsforestnotes.ca <http://nsforestnotes.ca>
Google Scholar
<https://scholar.google.ca/citations?hl=en&user=ZD5U2TcAAAAJ>
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On Monday, November 8, 2021, 1:47:52 PM AST, Frederick W. Schueler
<bckcdb(a)istar.ca> wrote:
On 08-Nov.-21 12:23 p.m., Peter Payzant wrote:
The mixed forest near our home (specifically, the
Lake William
Trail) is
full of a woody shrub with brilliant red leaves
at this time. It's
typically about waist-high, and grows quite densely beside the trail.
Could it be laurel? I'll have to take a leaf home with me next time to
aid in looking it up. The Flora of Nova Scotia doesn't mention the fall
colour of laurel.
* Burning-bush - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euonymus_alatus ?
Widely whooped as an invasive, though in eastern Ontario it often
doesn't seem to get away from cultivation.
fred.
------------------------------------------------------------
Frederick W. Schueler & Aleta Karstad
Fragile Inheritance Natural History
Mudpuppy Night in Oxford Mills - https://www.facebook.com/MudpuppyNight/
NatureMatch concentration game - https://naturematch.ca/
'Daily' Paintings - http://karstaddailypaintings.blogspot.com/
6 St-Lawrence Street Bishops Mills, RR#2 Oxford Station, Ontario K0G 1T0
on the Smiths Falls Limestone Plain 44.87156° N 75.70095° W
(613)258-3107 <bckcdb at istar.ca> http://pinicola.ca/
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9 Nov
9 Nov
1:10 p.m.
New subject: Red shrub in woods
We had another look at the red-leaved shrubs this morning, and a couple
of things leap out:
1. They would be much easier to identify in the spring and summer, when
blossoms and fruit are present
2. They does seem to meet some of the criteria for Black Huckleberry,
Gaylussacia baccata - abundance, size, leaf shape, and possibly the
presence of golden resin glands on the undersides of the leaves. There
are small yellow marks present, but not tiny - they seem to be somewhat
smeared on the nearly dry leaves.
I've put up three photos from this morning in case anyone would like to
see the plants - here <https://novascotiabutterflies.ca/RedPlant/>.
Thanks again to all who contributed suggestions!
--- Peter Payzant
1:40 p.m.
New subject: Red shrub in woods
The more shaded, forest huckleberry changes colour and drops leaves later than barrens
plants which went some time ago
'Worth looking at this old nswfs page for other ID
features: http://versicolor.ca/nswfsOLDsite/species/Ericaceae/GaylussBaccata/species.…
- David P
David G PatriquinProfessor of Biology (retired)Dalhousie University
Web Stuff at versicolor.caForest Blog at nsforestnotes.caGoogle Scholar
emails sent to patriqui(a)dal.ca & davidgpatriquin(a)gmail.com go to
davidgpatriquin(a)yahoo.ca
On Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 1:12:06 PM AST, Peter Payzant <peter(a)payzant.net>
wrote:
We had another look at the red-leaved shrubs this morning, and a couple of things leap
out:
1. They would be much easier to identify in the spring and summer, when blossoms and
fruit are present
2. They does seem to meet some of the criteria for Black Huckleberry, Gaylussacia baccata
- abundance, size, leaf shape, and possibly the presence of golden resin glands on the
undersides of the leaves. There are small yellow marks present, but not tiny - they seem
to be somewhat smeared on the nearly dry leaves.
I've put up three photos from this morning in case anyone would like to see the
plants - here.
Thanks again to all who contributed suggestions!
--- Peter Payzant
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5:47 p.m.
New subject: Red shrub in woods
We’ve seen your shrub in the fall, when it’s glorious. We saw a bunch of it today at the
water’s edge of Oathill Lake in Dartmouth. If your shrubs grow in a wet place,
Gaylussacia baccata would certainly be the prime suspect.
Jane
From: David Patriquin <davidgpatriquin(a)yahoo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, November 9, 2021 1:41 PM
To: naturens(a)chebucto.ns.ca; Peter Payzant <peter(a)payzant.net>
Subject: [Naturens] Re: Red shrub in woods
The more shaded, forest huckleberry changes colour and drops leaves later than barrens
plants which went some time ago
'Worth looking at this old nswfs page for other ID features:
http://versicolor.ca/nswfsOLDsite/species/Ericaceae/GaylussBaccata/species.…
- David P
David G Patriquin
Professor of Biology (retired)
Dalhousie University
Web Stuff at versicolor.ca <http://versicolor.ca>
Forest Blog at nsforestnotes.ca <http://nsforestnotes.ca>
Google Scholar <https://scholar.google.ca/citations?hl=en&user=ZD5U2TcAAAAJ>
emails sent to patriqui(a)dal.ca <mailto:patriqui@dal.ca> &
davidgpatriquin(a)gmail.com <mailto:davidgpatriquin@gmail.com> go to
davidgpatriquin(a)yahoo.ca <mailto:davidgpatriquin@yahoo.ca>
On Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 1:12:06 PM AST, Peter Payzant <peter(a)payzant.net
<mailto:peter@payzant.net> > wrote:
We had another look at the red-leaved shrubs this morning, and a couple of things leap
out:
1. They would be much easier to identify in the spring and summer, when blossoms and fruit
are present
2. They does seem to meet some of the criteria for Black Huckleberry, Gaylussacia baccata
- abundance, size, leaf shape, and possibly the presence of golden resin glands on the
undersides of the leaves. There are small yellow marks present, but not tiny - they seem
to be somewhat smeared on the nearly dry leaves.
I've put up three photos from this morning in case anyone would like to see the plants
- here <https://novascotiabutterflies.ca/RedPlant/> .
Thanks again to all who contributed suggestions!
--- Peter Payzant
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4:36 p.m.
New subject: Red shrub in woods
Yes, it is Black Huckleberry (Gaylussacia baccata).
On Tue, Nov 9, 2021 at 1:12 PM Peter Payzant <peter(a)payzant.net> wrote:
We had another look at the red-leaved shrubs this
morning, and a couple of
things leap out:
1. They would be much easier to identify in the spring and summer, when
blossoms and fruit are present
2. They does seem to meet some of the criteria for Black Huckleberry,
Gaylussacia baccata - abundance, size, leaf shape, and possibly the
presence of golden resin glands on the undersides of the leaves. There are
small yellow marks present, but not tiny - they seem to be somewhat smeared
on the nearly dry leaves.
I've put up three photos from this morning in case anyone would like to
see the plants - here <https://novascotiabutterflies.ca/RedPlant/>.
Thanks again to all who contributed suggestions!
--- Peter Payzant
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11 Nov
11 Nov
9:58 p.m.
New subject: Huckleberry coincidence
After all the chat about Black Huckleberry, a strange coincidence
happened today.
The scientific name for Black Huckleberry is /Gaylussacia baccata/. The
generic name was erected by German botanist Carl Sigismund Kunth, in
honour of the French chemist Joseph Louis Gay-Lussac. All this is from
Wikipedia.
This evening, I was deep into one of Patrick O'Brian's novels, "The
Surgeon's Mate". The naturalist (also physician and spy) Stephen Maturin
has just finished addressing the Institut de France - more or less the
equivalent of the Royal Society - and he is accepting the
congratulations of the scientists in the audience.
The author writes: "...Larrey, the Emperor's surgeon, was particularly
attentive. Gay-Lussac begged him to carry some curious pyrites to Sir
Humphrey Davey..."
Now that's quite a coincidence.
--- Peter Payzant
Waverley, NS
8 Nov
8 Nov
3:03 p.m.
New subject: Red shrub in woods
Are the twigs opposite and winged? If so, this is burning bush, a kind of euonymus.
On Nov 8, 2021, at 1:23 PM, Peter Payzant
<peter(a)payzant.net> wrote:
Hi, all-
The mixed forest near our home (specifically, the Lake William Trail) is full of a woody
shrub with brilliant red leaves at this time. It's typically about waist-high, and
grows quite densely beside the trail. Could it be laurel? I'll have to take a leaf
home with me next time to aid in looking it up. The Flora of Nova Scotia doesn't
mention the fall colour of laurel.
Peter Payzant
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