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From: Cliff White <cliffwhiteonblack(a)gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 1:03 PM
Subject: Fwd: service request 7750539 - 2786 Agricola St
To: Pete and Nancy <plavell(a)gmail.com>
The latest. Now we wait until it becomes a mess again and start all over.
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Subject: service request 7750539 - 2786 Agricola St
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2021 14:45:06 +0000
From: Rodger, Valerie <rodgerv(a)halifax.ca> <rodgerv(a)halifax.ca>
To: cliffwhiteonblack(a)gmail.com <cliffwhiteonblack(a)gmail.com>
<cliffwhiteonblack(a)gmail.com>
Mr. White
Your complaint was attached to my open case for debris on that property. I
have now closed that case, as I inspected the property yesterday and found
that the waste and debris have been removed.
As for “why this has been allowed to be this way for so long”, our
department only responds to complaints in these matters. We have addressed
the complaints we received in a timely manner.
*Valerie RODGER*
*Compliance Officer II*
PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT | Buildings and Compliance
*H?LIF?X*
PO BOX 1749
HALIFAX NS B3J 3A5
C. 902.476.1708
halifax.ca <http://www.halifax.ca/>
Dear Brothers and Sisters of Moscofax,
Brother Pete had many opinions that were right on the mark. Maybe we should monitor the situation over the winter . If we take photos and write down what we see, maybe our voice will be stronger and more organized.I still can't believe that the city can sell a neighbourhood property and say that the whole thing is a secret! If we do this protest and don't have all our eggs in a basket, it could cause the Supreme leaders to have fuel to add to the fire. Also, there is so much going on with Covid and the holiday season,maybe it would be best to wait. Brother Pete could call the masses in for a community meeting in the spring. If everything is well organized then we could storm the Bastille! Take care and have a wonderful holiday. Brother Ken
No comment from me at this time. Ron
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: "Rodger, Valerie" <rodgerv(a)halifax.ca>
> Subject: RE: [External Email] Re: [Bnranews] Dangerous and unsightly bloomfield
> Date: November 29, 2021 at 5:00:41 PM AST
> To: Ronald Skibbens <SkibbensPhillips(a)ns.sympatico.ca>
> Cc: "Hill, Scott" <hills(a)halifax.ca>
>
> Hi Ron
>
> The Bloomfield site is not deemed unsafe at this time.
>
> As of this afternoon, the waste and debris on the site has been removed.
>
> VALERIE RODGER
> COMPLIANCE OFFICER II
> PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT | BUILDINGS AND COMPLIANCE
>
> H?LIF?X
> PO BOX 1749
> HALIFAX NS B3J 3A5
> C. 902.476.1708
>
> halifax.ca <http://www.halifax.ca/>
>
>
>
> From: Ronald Skibbens <SkibbensPhillips(a)ns.sympatico.ca <mailto:SkibbensPhillips@ns.sympatico.ca>>
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 2021 4:49 PM
> To: Hill, Scott <hills(a)halifax.ca <mailto:hills@halifax.ca>>; Smith, Lindell <smithli(a)halifax.ca <mailto:smithli@halifax.ca>>; Rodger, Valerie <rodgerv(a)halifax.ca <mailto:rodgerv@halifax.ca>>; Mayor <mayor(a)halifax.ca <mailto:mayor@halifax.ca>>
> Cc: BNRA <bnranews(a)chebucto.ns.ca <mailto:bnranews@chebucto.ns.ca>>
> Subject: [External Email] Re: [Bnranews] Dangerous and unsightly bloomfield
>
> Hello Mr Hill and our elected representatives at City Hall,
> It appears that section 358(1-5) and section 359 of the City Charter are both relevant to our ongoing communications about the dangerous and unsightly mess at the Bloomfield site.
> I’d appreciate the city’s response to both sections of the Charter, but in particular section 359 which states that “The Administrator shall post notice that the property is unsafe in a conspicuous place on the property. The notice must remain posted until the unsafe condition is remedied.”
> Is it possible that with mostly broken windows, broken pavement, scattered garbage, loose construction debris and the buildings literally crumbling that Bloomfield has not been deemed unsafe by By Law Enforcement?
>
> Patiently and expectantly yours,
>
> Ron Skibbens
>
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 23, 2021, at 1:11 PM, Ronald Skibbens <skibbensphillips(a)ns.sympatico.ca <mailto:skibbensphillips@ns.sympatico.ca>> wrote:
>
> Hi Mr. Hill,
> As you may be aware, I got your name from notices of dangerous or unsightly premises publicly posted on the front door at 2382 Creighton. The notices list the owner and the fact that the property is unsightly and give the owner a time limit to remedy the issues.
> Your recent email says that similar information about the dangerous and unsightly mess at the Bloomfield School site is confidential. Please explain why the two properties are treated differently by By Law Enforcement, especially as Bloomfield is so much more unsightly and is clearly dangerous. As per my emails and pictures of the past 3 weeks, the grounds there are littered with broken glass, syringes, furniture, pallets, garbage, bricks and much much more.
> Sincerely,
> Ron Skibbens
>
>
>
> Hi Mr. Skibbens
> I just want to confirm the only information we are able to provide is that we have an open case and continue to follow up.
> This is in accordance with Freedom of Information / Protection of Privacy Legislation and is not a choice made by the Officer nor can be altered by myself or other Staff/Officials of HRM.
>
> Thanks
>
> SCOTT HILL
>
> SUPERVISOR REGIONAL COMPLIANCE
> BUILDINGS AND COMPLIANCE | PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT
> T. 902.490.3588
>
> H?LIF?X
> _______________
> -
>
> From: Ron Skibbens <skibbenr7(a)hotmail.com <mailto:skibbenr7@hotmail.com>>
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 10:44 PM
> To: ab996(a)chebucto.ns.ca <mailto:ab996@chebucto.ns.ca>
> Cc: Rodger, Valerie <rodgerv(a)halifax.ca <mailto:rodgerv@halifax.ca>>; Smith, Lindell <smithli(a)halifax.ca <mailto:smithli@halifax.ca>>; Support, By-Law <bylawsupport(a)halifax.ca <mailto:bylawsupport@halifax.ca>>; BNRA <bnranews(a)chebucto.ns.ca <mailto:bnranews@chebucto.ns.ca>>; Mayor <mayor(a)halifax.ca <mailto:mayor@halifax.ca>>; Hill, Scott <hills(a)halifax.ca <mailto:hills@halifax.ca>>; Hill, Scott <hills(a)halifax.ca <mailto:hills@halifax.ca>>
> Subject: [External Email] Re: [Bnranews] Dangerous and unsightly bloomfield
>
> Hi Roback,
>
> thanks for your letter of support about the dangerous and unsightly mess at Bloomfield, and Valerie Rodger’s lack of substantive information about ByLaw’s determination of when and how that will be remedied.
>
> I’ve taken the liberty of forwarding your email to the mayor and additional ByLaw staff in hopes of the courtesy of a reply to this and past requests for information from Councillor Smith and Inspector Rodger, as itemized below.
>
> All the best,
> Ron
>
>
> On Nov 18, 2021, at 1:59 PM, ab996(a)chebucto.ns.ca <mailto:ab996@chebucto.ns.ca><mailto:ab996@chebucto.ns.ca <mailto:ab996@chebucto.ns.ca>> wrote:
>
> Hello Ms Rodger and Mr Smith,
>
> As a long-time resident of the Bloomfield neighbourhood (40 years at 2620 Fuller Terrace), I would like to express my support for the issues raised by Ron Skibbens in his recent communications with you both.
>
> The Bloomfield school site has served both the immediate and larger community very well for over 100 years. The value placed on the site and its potential was made clear by how members of the neighbourhood mobilized in an effort to develop a plan incorporating commercial, housing, recreational, and creative opportunities in this space. Throughout the long and often interrupted process that followed, the site has been allowed to deteriorate, and stands now like in a bad dream.
>
> It seems to me that compliance with by-laws should not be ignored by claiming confidential agreements with the site owner. HRM - its elected representatives as well as its staff - has a responsibility to ensure its citizens and its built environment are safe and secure, and that responsibility means clearly demonstrating that the deserved safety and security be effected.
>
> Thank you for your attention,
> David Roback
>
>
> Quoting Ron Skibbens <skibbenr7(a)hotmail.com <mailto:skibbenr7@hotmail.com><mailto:skibbenr7@hotmail.com <mailto:skibbenr7@hotmail.com>>>:
>
>
> Hi Valerie,
>
> As per this pic, I thought bylaw always posted a notice of dangerous and unsightly premises at the location indicating issues and the time frame to address the issues. Where can I find that notice at Bloomfield?
>
> Ron
> [cid:54127390-87A2-4E17-9C3B-A62CB481A531-L0-001 <cid:54127390-87A2-4E17-9C3B-A62CB481A531-L0-001>]
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 15, 2021, at 10:09 AM, Rodger, Valerie <rodgerv(a)halifax.ca <mailto:rodgerv@halifax.ca><mailto:rodgerv@halifax.ca <mailto:rodgerv@halifax.ca>>> wrote:
>
> ?
> Hi Ron
>
> As I stated, I cannot release specific details regarding communications with the property owners. I have an open case, which means that actions are ongoing.
>
> As for what happens during the winter, we do not expect property owners to do things that would be considered unreasonable given the weather. I cannot give you specific details regarding an individual case.
>
> Valerie
>
> From: Ron Skibbens <skibbenr7(a)hotmail.com <mailto:skibbenr7@hotmail.com><mailto:skibbenr7@hotmail.com <mailto:skibbenr7@hotmail.com>>>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2021 2:36 PM
> To: Rodger, Valerie <rodgerv(a)halifax.ca <mailto:rodgerv@halifax.ca><mailto:rodgerv@halifax.ca <mailto:rodgerv@halifax.ca>>>; Smith, Lindell <smithli(a)halifax.ca <mailto:smithli@halifax.ca><mailto:smithli@halifax.ca <mailto:smithli@halifax.ca>>>; BNRA <bnranews(a)chebucto.ns.ca <mailto:bnranews@chebucto.ns.ca><mailto:bnranews@chebucto.ns.ca <mailto:bnranews@chebucto.ns.ca>>>
> Subject: [External Email] Re: [Bnranews] Dangerous and unsightly bloomfield
>
> Hi Valerie and Lindell,
>
> Again thanks for your replies.
>
> 1. First, Lindell, I appreciate that this dangerous and unsightly premises is now the concern of ByLaw Enforcement. However, I’d appreciate hearing from you about whether the city put any timing constraints on site remediation and/or development as a condition of sale this time. As you’ll remember, the city got burned in that regard when It sold the site to Housing NS and endured 3 years of continued dereliction. Was there a lesson learned from that multi-year debacle?
>
> 2. And Valerie, I live in the area and so walk by the site routinely. I sure wish the owner and bylaw enforcement would also since it is so obviously dangerous and unsightly. And although I trust that some debris has been removed, it still appears that hypodermic needles, broken window glass, broken pallets, broken furniture, scattered garbage, broken asphalt and loose bricks litter the site. The lack of exterior maintenance and graffiti is obvious from all sides of the property. In short, it appears that it meets both conditions for ‘dangerous’ as well as nearly all of the conditions for unsightly, as per HRM’s website. As I understand, these are the basic requirements for all land owners:
>
> [cid:image003.png@01D7DA08.CAFE5CA0 <cid:image003.png@01D7DA08.CAFE5CA0>]
>
> 3. Through past experience, it appears that when By Law Enforcement receives a complaint it gives the owner a time limit for addressing the complaint. Please advise what that time limit is for this complaint so that we can continue our dialog as appropriate at the end of that time.
>
> 4. Also, I understand that By Law Enforcement suspends some of their monitoring over the winter. Please advise if that pertains to this site, and if so when it stops and starts again.
>
> Thank you both for your continued monitoring of this matter.
>
> Ron
>
>
>
>
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ONE YEAR FROM NOW>>>>>
Dear Brothers and Sisters of Moscowfax,
I have been in the Correctional centre in Dartmouth for the last five months.Why you ask? I wanted to know from the Supreme Leader why the by-laws could not be changed to be more fairer to the masses. They said I was ungrateful. Look what we did for you! You are now the Fashionable North End . You now have to pay more tax but we threw out all the poor. Why can't you be happy like all the developers.
Did they have a Lip service meeting with the community, after the building was half finished, I asked a neighbour. What were some of your questions?
1. What is that big space on the ground floor going to be used for ?The masses were told it would be a wonderful subsidized day care. Did it happen, I asked. No, crane fees went through the roof and they had to make it into a bar and a McDonald's.The developer could't believe we would complain.They know everyone in the area likes greasy food and a beer! 2. What about subsidized housing. The two, one and one half bedrooms, on the ground floor will be given to them for only $2250.00.For the first year! They also have to mop the halls twice a week. 3. What about outside recreational space? They will go to Walmart and get a plastic wadding pool for the kids.They'll place it out by the dumpster.
As ridiculous this sounds there is a lot of on the mark! I know we have to stay focused. Shari-Lynn and P.Kipping have some good ideas.Is there a date that people feel would be a good time for a protest? I know this is a busy time for everyone but what else can we do? Maybe we could do social media to let more people know. Sorry,I'm not a Facebook user. Anyone know how to get the media involved? take care, Brother Ken
Hi Mr. Hill,
As you may be aware, I got your name from notices of dangerous or unsightly premises publicly posted on the front door at 2382 Creighton. The notices list the owner and the fact that the property is unsightly and give the owner a time limit to remedy the issues.
Your recent email says that similar information about the dangerous and unsightly mess at the Bloomfield School site is confidential. Please explain why the two properties are treated differently by By Law Enforcement, especially as Bloomfield is so much more unsightly and is clearly dangerous. As per my emails and pictures of the past 3 weeks, the grounds there are littered with broken glass, syringes, furniture, pallets, garbage, bricks and much much more.
Sincerely,
Ron Skibbens
>
>> Hi Mr. Skibbens
>> I just want to confirm the only information we are able to provide is that we have an open case and continue to follow up.
>> This is in accordance with Freedom of Information / Protection of Privacy Legislation and is not a choice made by the Officer nor can be altered by myself or other Staff/Officials of HRM.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> SCOTT HILL
>>
>> SUPERVISOR REGIONAL COMPLIANCE
>> BUILDINGS AND COMPLIANCE | PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT
>> T. 902.490.3588
>>
>> H?LIF?X
>> _______________
>>
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>>
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>>
>> From: Ron Skibbens <skibbenr7(a)hotmail.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2021 10:44 PM
>> To: ab996(a)chebucto.ns.ca
>> Cc: Rodger, Valerie <rodgerv(a)halifax.ca>; Smith, Lindell <smithli(a)halifax.ca>; Support, By-Law <bylawsupport(a)halifax.ca>; BNRA <bnranews(a)chebucto.ns.ca>; Mayor <mayor(a)halifax.ca>; Hill, Scott <hills(a)halifax.ca>; Hill, Scott <hills(a)halifax.ca>
>> Subject: [External Email] Re: [Bnranews] Dangerous and unsightly bloomfield
>>
>> Hi Roback,
>>
>> thanks for your letter of support about the dangerous and unsightly mess at Bloomfield, and Valerie Rodger’s lack of substantive information about ByLaw’s determination of when and how that will be remedied.
>>
>> I’ve taken the liberty of forwarding your email to the mayor and additional ByLaw staff in hopes of the courtesy of a reply to this and past requests for information from Councillor Smith and Inspector Rodger, as itemized below.
>>
>> All the best,
>> Ron
>>
>>
>> On Nov 18, 2021, at 1:59 PM, ab996(a)chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:ab996@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Ms Rodger and Mr Smith,
>>
>> As a long-time resident of the Bloomfield neighbourhood (40 years at 2620 Fuller Terrace), I would like to express my support for the issues raised by Ron Skibbens in his recent communications with you both.
>>
>> The Bloomfield school site has served both the immediate and larger community very well for over 100 years. The value placed on the site and its potential was made clear by how members of the neighbourhood mobilized in an effort to develop a plan incorporating commercial, housing, recreational, and creative opportunities in this space. Throughout the long and often interrupted process that followed, the site has been allowed to deteriorate, and stands now like in a bad dream.
>>
>> It seems to me that compliance with by-laws should not be ignored by claiming confidential agreements with the site owner. HRM - its elected representatives as well as its staff - has a responsibility to ensure its citizens and its built environment are safe and secure, and that responsibility means clearly demonstrating that the deserved safety and security be effected.
>>
>> Thank you for your attention,
>> David Roback
>>
>>
>> Quoting Ron Skibbens <skibbenr7(a)hotmail.com<mailto:skibbenr7@hotmail.com>>:
>>
>>
>> Hi Valerie,
>>
>> As per this pic, I thought bylaw always posted a notice of dangerous and unsightly premises at the location indicating issues and the time frame to address the issues. Where can I find that notice at Bloomfield?
>>
>> Ron
>> [cid:54127390-87A2-4E17-9C3B-A62CB481A531-L0-001]
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 15, 2021, at 10:09 AM, Rodger, Valerie <rodgerv(a)halifax.ca<mailto:rodgerv@halifax.ca>> wrote:
>>
>> ?
>> Hi Ron
>>
>> As I stated, I cannot release specific details regarding communications with the property owners. I have an open case, which means that actions are ongoing.
>>
>> As for what happens during the winter, we do not expect property owners to do things that would be considered unreasonable given the weather. I cannot give you specific details regarding an individual case.
>>
>> Valerie
>>
>> From: Ron Skibbens <skibbenr7(a)hotmail.com<mailto:skibbenr7@hotmail.com>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2021 2:36 PM
>> To: Rodger, Valerie <rodgerv(a)halifax.ca<mailto:rodgerv@halifax.ca>>; Smith, Lindell <smithli(a)halifax.ca<mailto:smithli@halifax.ca>>; BNRA <bnranews(a)chebucto.ns.ca<mailto:bnranews@chebucto.ns.ca>>
>> Subject: [External Email] Re: [Bnranews] Dangerous and unsightly bloomfield
>>
>> Hi Valerie and Lindell,
>>
>> Again thanks for your replies.
>>
>> 1. First, Lindell, I appreciate that this dangerous and unsightly premises is now the concern of ByLaw Enforcement. However, I’d appreciate hearing from you about whether the city put any timing constraints on site remediation and/or development as a condition of sale this time. As you’ll remember, the city got burned in that regard when It sold the site to Housing NS and endured 3 years of continued dereliction. Was there a lesson learned from that multi-year debacle?
>>
>> 2. And Valerie, I live in the area and so walk by the site routinely. I sure wish the owner and bylaw enforcement would also since it is so obviously dangerous and unsightly. And although I trust that some debris has been removed, it still appears that hypodermic needles, broken window glass, broken pallets, broken furniture, scattered garbage, broken asphalt and loose bricks litter the site. The lack of exterior maintenance and graffiti is obvious from all sides of the property. In short, it appears that it meets both conditions for ‘dangerous’ as well as nearly all of the conditions for unsightly, as per HRM’s website. As I understand, these are the basic requirements for all land owners:
>>
>> [cid:image003.png@01D7DA08.CAFE5CA0]
>>
>> 3. Through past experience, it appears that when By Law Enforcement receives a complaint it gives the owner a time limit for addressing the complaint. Please advise what that time limit is for this complaint so that we can continue our dialog as appropriate at the end of that time.
>>
>> 4. Also, I understand that By Law Enforcement suspends some of their monitoring over the winter. Please advise if that pertains to this site, and if so when it stops and starts again.
>>
>> Thank you both for your continued monitoring of this matter.
>>
>> Ron
>
>
>
All things considered: I am not sure that an attempt at a demonstration
at this time is the right course of action. First and foremost, I do not
see a large number of people committing themselves to it. I count 7, of
whom, 2 may not even be in town on the date. Even if all of the remaining 5
were to show up, one has to admit that it is not much of a showing. I think
that a poor showing is worse than not doing it at all from a public
relations standpoint.
I also think that there is a lot of baggage being attached to this
issue. Many of the people in this neighbourhood and on this mailing list
have spent the last 30 or so years trying to exercise their democratic
right to effective input at city hall. In fact, in those 30 or so years we
have not only suffered repeated failures in our attempts to participate, we
have seen the erosion of our ability to participate at all. In my opinion,
in a general sense, the enormous outrage that we are feeling relative to
dangerous and unsightly premises at the Bloomfield site is partially an
expression of our growing realization of and concern about that loss of
democracy.
In a particular sense, the Bloomfield site resonates with us. It
borders our community. Neighbours involved in the Imagine Bloomfield
initiative worked for years to establish a development on the site that
would have provided affordable housing as well as other real amenities.
They would also have had some claim to participation “by the people”. It
was torpedoed by all levels of government. Now the continued lack of proper
maintenance at the site is particularly galling.
All of this baggage is different from “Dangerous and Unsightly
Premises” which was the starting point of all of this. It has been noted
that the city (or someone) seems to have started at least a partial cleanup
at the site. This alone would give them ammunition in the countering of any
claims we might make to the media. In the meanwhile, we might follow Ron’s
example: head up to the site, notice the things that have not been dealt
with, call 311 and register a complaint. Some people have already done so.
I complained on November 18. That reference number is 7750214. The items in
my complaint were: broken windows, graffiti, garbage, lack of proper
fencing and poorly maintained, overgrown green spaces. At least 3 other
people have written letters to Lindell and staff. If you call to complain,
have the civic numbers on hand because the complaints are registered under
the civic numbers.
In the meanwhile, I haven’t seen any extra names being added to the 7
people who initially said they would participate.
Pete
Dear Everyone,
There have been problems with BNRANews as managed through Chebucto
Community Net. Their mail management system runs 50% of the time at best. I
think most of the time the stuff sent in gets to the listserve, however my
access to it and ability to post it fluctuates. In the short run, i am
trying to run BNRANews in parallel through my personal gmail account. I am
using a truncated list that i gleaned from the list for BNRANews on the CCN
system. There will be duplication as i will send stuff out on the old
system (CCN) during the times it is working. For the next little while,
please send comments to both bnranews(a)chebucto.ns.ca and plavell(a)gmail.com
.
Thanks,
Pete
I can walk up to CTV on Agricola Street and ask how we could get news coverage when we decide on a date. Is that O.K. with everyone? Any other suggestions ? Ken ,Black Street
Dear Neighbours,
Time is not on our side! We will have to work quickly on the protest ! If it snows the city will say Too Bad So Sad, we'll deal with it in the spring. If it was one of our properties they would say, get it done now or we will.The city likes to close historical buildings for a few years,and then say that they are too far gone to save! The developers are taking this beautiful city and making it to a glass and concrete jungle with city council giving them the green light. I'm not an old geezer against development,but there should be a process where all affected people are involved!
At this point there seems to be at least 8 people willing to protest. If we all bring a few more ,there should be plenty to make our frustrations known.If the media asks about history of the building we have at least 2 people who could write a book about the building! Ron and Susanne.
We all know what has happened over the years with this structure.
So lets get out cardboard and markers and let the rest of the city and council know what we have been up against! In European cities you can't tear down an historic outhouse without council and public approvable. I'm not an expert in how we get the media involved, but I'm sure someone in the hood does. I think that we should ask Councillor Smith to be there! I won't hold my breath. Sorry, I tend to ramble. It's the teacher in me, Take care, Ken P.S. If there is any spelling or grammar mistakes...I was an Art teacher.
While out this morning, I noticed two police vehicles, two officers, and
possible a third person walking the site.
Finally some action..
Shari-Lynn Hiltz
Bloomfield St